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David Manheim

The most interesting quote, I thought, specifically excluded using this as a precedent for any future case: "Further, the District Court and the Court of Appeals did not sharply distinguish between uses of Grokster’s and StreamCast’s software products (which this case is about) and uses of peer-to-peer technology generally (which this case is not about)."

Matthew Goeden

If *good* legal engineering is the answer, then Bit Torrent will probably be the proving ground for it. After all, Bit Torrent is probably the number one "enabler" for "stealing" copyrighted movie and Bit Torrent basically has zero promoting/intention marketing. (haha -- does word of mouth marketings count?!?!)

After a brief reading of the opinion myself, I think that the marketing evidence of stealing the Napster users was far to highlighted/relied upon. Wanting to somebody's users who happend to predominantly conduct illegal activity doesn't impute that you are marketing your "illegal" capabilities.

Anyways, I understand that the rest of the marketing evidence is fairly compelling as to the(promoting)intent of Grokster, etc.

If that (all about promotion/intent) is how SCOTUS wants to take it, so be it.

Bob

I found it hard to rationalize Grokster within the Sony case because Sony showed that most uses were not infringing whereas in Grokster it was completely the opposite. Add on top of that the each of these companies was grossing millions of of primarily it's users who were, let's face it, for the most part infringing.

Regarding legal engineering, I think that software such as BitTorrent may be there. It would be very difficult to prove the 'intent/inducement' element with software that has no marketing, no real revenue stream, and no position on what the software should be used for..The websites who host the torrent files, that's a different story.

Unfortunately the argument to the Record Houses to come up with a commercially viable alternative does not hold legal water and is not a defense to either of the 2 claims. I'm still disgusted by the fact that whether you buy the CD or the MP3 you still pay $18 for the entire album.

Despite this, they will have to do something, because while the Grokster's of the world left the so called 'smoking gun' the other P2P networks out there probably have not left the legal equivalent to hold them liable.

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